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Blue Heart
Date Submitted: July 25, 2010, 12:34 pm GMT
Submitted By: xxxjamiexxx
Name: Blue Heart
State/Province: Perth
Logo: Heart
Colour: Blue
Shape: Round
Height: 5 mm
Width: 3 mm
Texture: Solid
Edges: Rounded
Report Quality Rating: (5 stars, 1 vote)
Description: Well Pressed Pill, Speckles of white,purple and a small amount of red but mainly blue
Suspected Contents: Other - please see report
Rating: Adulterated
Warning: yes
Tested: yes
Mandelin Reagent: No Reaction
Marquis Reagent: No Reaction
Mecke Reagent: No Reaction
Robadope Reagent: No Reaction
Simons Reagent: No Reaction
Consumed: yes
User Report: Dropped 2 of these at about midnight

About 1200 - 1230 : stared to feel pretty good, stomach churrning, Started to get chatty

1:00am
Felt the urge to get on the dance floor, talking a million words a minute, legs wobblish, jaw clenches not to severe

2:00am
Still ticking along rather nicely, not an mdma high but still very upbeat and clean high, noticed that i wasnt sweating as much as a "normal" pill

3:00am Dropped another half just to keep me going as i started to drop off a little bit as i was sitting down alot.

4:00 - 6:00am Still very alert and up there but the intense feeling has gone and i had levelled off by this time

Nights Over we decide to go back to a mates place for afters, no shakes or anything unusual so def not a pipe pill, didnt get to sleep until about 11:30am. This pill felt very much like the time i decided to take duromine, now 8pm following night and my pupils are still massive which is very unusual for myself, had all the same effects as the duramine, chatty,still very alert even whilst sleeping,extreme amount of gas, and absoluly no urge to eat even after 24hrs of taking these pills. Will leave this one open to discusion and see if we can reach a conclusion.
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Posted on July 25, 2010, 12:36 pm GMT by xxxjamiexxx
And for anyone that doesnt know duromine is a dietry pill which has effects of euphoria when taken in a certain dosage, im 90% sure that someone has used duromine as a base for this pill as a friend tested these for me and it come up with nothing on every single test, but this pill still has a very good clean high. Still trying to unlock the mystery of this one
Posted on July 25, 2010, 1:37 pm GMT by watership
Terrible looking pill, most likely made by ametuers. Zero results on the tests so definately avoid.


Posted on July 25, 2010, 1:43 pm GMT by xxxjamiexxx
photo doesnt do this ne any favours, the one next to it is a dexy, just for a size comparasin, its a good looking pill hard pressed, definatly not a backyard job, this would have to be run thru a good press. just gotta find out whats in it now
Posted on July 25, 2010, 2:15 pm GMT by cookiesmonster
had these and also had the white hearts, very similar to the white clovers and diamonds. I found no trouble in fact i ate after 6 hours after but yeh i was very alert and did a 2 day bender on these. I'm guessing the adulterated warning is for the fact they arent real mdma or speed, as test results showed. ive tested all of the above with mandelin and all negative and have eaten them and all have the same mild buzz definite urge to stay awake and a clean comedown. i would def. like to find out what these actually are. a year ago i wouldnt have even considered touching these but for the times they do the job without any negative side affects like alot of the crap we've seen. also thought i would add that that picture doesnt do them justice. they tasted the same as the clovers, diamonds and white hearts.
Posted on July 26, 2010, 1:55 am GMT by matt414
Good report.

Just a question slighlty off topic but what is with Perth's obsession with Dexies? I visited Perth a few weeks back and I heard a lot of people talking about them and then on pillreports I see a lot of Perth users writing about them. Im familiar with what they are but just can't understand the obsession with them.
Posted on July 26, 2010, 2:07 am GMT by silentangst
It's all we have lol.
Posted on July 26, 2010, 8:04 am GMT by straussy
@ cookiesmonster. what are the white hearts like that you mention? obviously not the same that was circling a year ago but ive heard there doing the rounds?
Posted on July 26, 2010, 10:05 am GMT by maggot
FUCK!!! when the hell is WA gunna get some MDMA??!!! this is retarded, sick of bunk pills!!!
Posted on July 26, 2010, 10:11 am GMT by crystalst1
the white hearts going around atm, are pretty good.
not heaps strong.
but i'm pretty sure its mdma. either way its clean, can get to sleep on them.
doubling them is ideal
Posted on July 26, 2010, 10:18 am GMT by straussy
have you consumed crystals? thinking about getting a few but want to know more first
Posted on July 26, 2010, 11:02 am GMT by xxxjamiexxx
hey guys, just popping on to see if weve reached a conclusion, the white hearts going around atm are not mdma, there methedrone, mdma is extremely hard to come by atm, like impossible infact. anyhows back to the topic, its now 7pm monday and i still havent slept...... only just getting my appetite back which is good.
Posted on July 26, 2010, 11:08 am GMT by crystalst1
are they the white hearts, with a score on the back and an outpressed heart?
Posted on July 26, 2010, 11:32 am GMT by psilosubnaut
xxxjamiexxx - are you sure the pills you talk about are mephedrone? I have recently heard of a few presses which contain bk-MDMA (methylone) over that way. Have you tried mephedrone in powder form for a comparison between it and the pills?

The reason i ask is because mephedrone is worth a lot as a powder and is more commonly seen in caps, where as methylone seems to be more commonly pressed.

For the record, bk-MDMA has a bit over 1/3-1/2 the potency of MDMA and is missing the true loved up feelings that are associated with MDMA

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Posted on July 26, 2010, 12:32 pm GMT by thestudent14
Psilo, he actually said METHedrone (4-methoxymethcathinone) not Mephedrone. Which to be honest I'm way more sceptical about. And as you stated mephedrone is rarely pressed into pills, the only few I have seen have all been extremely low potency (coming from Sustanon)

However wouldn't methylone showed up on both Marquis and Mandelin with a quick change to yellow?

Psilo how come bk-MDMA have been making a recent uprise? Feel free to P.M me so we don't take this thread off topic.
Posted on July 26, 2010, 3:31 pm GMT by klutchy
Had one of these saturday night, pretty much exact same type of high as whats described, felt like i was coming up but never really "peaked"

lots of energy though, which is always good.

No idea what could be in it, but it was certainly better than most things that seem to be going around at the moment
Posted on July 26, 2010, 4:31 pm GMT by xxxjamiexxx
with all the crap going into pills atm beacuse of the world wide mdma shortage it wouldnt surprise me if there was human flesh in pills and it called something, all i know is there is something up with these pills, and alot of people will agree with me its not normal. no positives on test results but has a descent high???
Posted on July 26, 2010, 5:48 pm GMT by psilosubnaut
Ts14 - I instantly doubted methedrone and took it as a spelling mistake, hence asking about mephedrone instead. I find it commonly mispelt in less knowledgable forums and 4-methoxymethcathinone is pretty rare now days. Going off the above post I believe there is little clue either way...

I do not suspect these hearts are methylone due to the long duration, high stimulation and lack of MDMA like effects. I was just commenting on the comments about the white hearts. Sorry to confuse you dude.

Methylone contains a ketone group and should react to some of the usual tests for ketones. I would suggest using Marquis first, followed by a test for ketones.

2,4 Dinitrophenylhydrazine reagent (DNPH aka "bradys reagent) is generally regarded as a good test for ketones although some ketones may react to form an oil residue which won't dissolve, making this test difficult at times.

Sodium Nitroferricyanide is used in Simons reagent. An orange color indicates a ketone. For the less knowledgable, the reason I am talking about testing for ketones is because methylone (bk-MDMA) is the beta-ketone analogue of MDMA.

It's interesting to note that pure samples of mephedrone have little to no reaction with reagents. Forensics laboratries have found this out when testing with their control samples that were extremely pure. Street (vendor sourced) samples containing impurities usually have a slight reaction though.

As for these hearts in the report. No reaction and still eaten is by all means a mega FAIL and it's anyones guess as to whats in them. Laboratry GC/MS is the only worthwhile way of finding out the contents.

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Posted on July 28, 2010, 3:39 am GMT by camaro
think I am getting these for friday, at least they wont kill me. Dexies are cool mmmwwwok, good for when your drinking, and harder to come by than pills unless you know a mum with an ADD kid. You said it perfectly "maggot" Perth is retarded when it comes to pills, but we have only the stupid government to blame for this one. They have been to busy over the years catching the "REAL" pills from comming through the boarder overseas, when they should have been spending their time catching the backyard bunkies in Australia who are putting horse tranquilizerz in their pills, trust me, nobody wants to go through the k hole at 6am when they wanted to be dancing all nite...
Posted on July 28, 2010, 10:10 am GMT by psilosubnaut
^^ Tranquilizer (Ketamine) pills are pretty much a thing of the past. It's street price is now so high due to very low availability that no one presses this commodity into pills now days.

Australian vets and doctors now have to account for every dose they give. It is extremely hard for them to divert it from legitimate medical uses like in days of old.

The manufacture of the ketamine precursor 'hydroxilimide' has now been banned in China, making it further harder to obtain from over seas sources. China had one of the worst ketamine epidemics in the world.

The days of ketamine or speed/ketamine pills are long gone. They're manufacture peaked in the late 90's to mid 00's.

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Posted on July 28, 2010, 12:46 pm GMT by marley
I have also heard anecdotal evidence that Australian Ketamine is manufactued in such a way that it is no longer viable to be ingested as a recreational drug. Someone suggested that a chemical is being added (in the same fashion as Methylated Spirits is designed to be unsuitable for human consumption). Anyone heard anything similar?

~Marley Mod
Posted on July 28, 2010, 1:01 pm GMT by thestudent14
I haven't heard this marley and have two stable sources of ketamine (although I've never tried it and don't really plan to anytime soon)

I'll do some asking around though Marley and if I hear something I'll PM you or start a thread about it on bl.
Posted on July 31, 2010, 1:08 am GMT by longtimecoming
I to stumbled upon the blue hearts last weekend best pressed round i have seen in a long long time.Had 3 1/2 over a 8 hour time frame and i am stumped as to what is in these real nice come up, very nice buzz, never really peak , very very clean also , i remained real alert throughout am not a big drinker but drunk a ridiculous ammount of alcohol but managed to feel very clear headed although i was a stuttering/slurring mess. I may be well wrong but these kinda took me back to the exam snorting ritalin days.I hit the pillow at about 5am and was out like a log. Woke up bout 830am feeling good and rearing to go ( a bit scattered).There is no way these are mdma/mdea/amps or pips but whatever they are they are clean although there was no chance in hell i could eat for the next 24 hours or take the dilation out of my pupils i would consider taking again
Posted on July 31, 2010, 7:56 am GMT by relaxskinny88
The other weekend I had a double pressed pink heart, I was SO looking forward to getting my mash on and instead.. it was shit, I only a little light buzzing (similar to description in this report) but still stone cold sober. What the F*^@ is wrong with Perth? Seriously?
Posted on August 1, 2010, 7:48 am GMT by crystalst1
for what is in perth.

these arent that bad.
gets you high and all that.
pretty clean to imo, and as the above people have said, got to sleep on them
Posted on August 1, 2010, 10:06 am GMT by junkie skumbag
@matt414 i love dexies there cheaps a fuck and made by real cehmiests that know what there doin plus there clean long lasting buz bout 4-6 hours depending how much u have i usally have bout 10. but me mates have 20 at once then bout a hour had another 10 so im geussing its pritty hard to overdose.
Posted on August 1, 2010, 2:56 pm GMT by lemonpopsicle
@straussy - the white hearts look like they are from the same press as these blue ones. Outpressed heart, small narrow pill identical in size to blue hearts and the test results were the same. I had one at a club and had a happy buzz with the urge to dance. Comedown was very clean and I slept like a log afterwards.
Posted on August 2, 2010, 2:04 pm GMT by thestudent14
True dexies are hard to overdose on from what I understand, but they can be very addictive I've heard. So please be careful, and just because Junkie Skumbag has had 30 in an hour is not advised for someone else to do the same.

Lets keep this report on topic guys.
Posted on August 4, 2010, 12:44 pm GMT by whopper
@Junkie Skumbag. Your also the guy that tried to post a thread with demazpan as a pill.
Posted on August 6, 2010, 11:40 am GMT by crystalst1
the question is, has anyone identified what are in these?
same pink, white and blue ones are all same presser.

with most likely the same ingredient.