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Blue Diamond
Date Submitted: April 26, 2006, 2:16 pm GMT
Submitted By: m dit aimez (member since October 5, 2005)
Name: Blue Diamond
State/Province: Canada, Quebec, Montreal
Logo: none
Colour: Light Blue
Shape: Diamond Shape
Height: 7.0 mm
Width: 8.0 mm
Texture: Smooth
Edges: Hard
Report Quality Rating: (3.75 stars, 4 votes)
Description: April 26, 2006
SEE THIS UPDATED REPORT:
http://www.pillreports.com/index.php?page=display_pill&id=3307

Original report: February 28, 2006
Test results description:
MARQUIS REAGENT:
Turn immediately dark orange and then dark brown, ???: A typical ecstasy color change reaction should be a dark blue/purple and then black. A bright orange or a light brown would be related to speed like substances, but a dark brown is not associated to any pure substance...

MECKE REAGENT:
Turn rapidly red/brown with a blue outline, ???: The normal reagent reaction for an ecstasy-like substance would start green then turn into a dark blue.

MANDELIN REAGENT:
Became brown/purple, ???: For an ecstasy-like substance, the reagent should turn a dark blue/purple or black. Orange-brown is normaly associated with ketamine-like substance, but brown/purple?

SIMON'S REAGENT:
Turn quickly to royal blue: Indicates the presence of a secondary amine (MDMA, MDEA or Methamphetamine)

Conclusion:
The test results don’t give the typical color changes of an ecstasy pill. According to the other reports on these pills and to the test results, these pills are not clean. There are probably too many substances into it to be able to identify the pill content with a classical reagent test kit. We will need a laboratory test to know it.

Stay away from these.
Suspected Contents: Unknown
Rating: Adulterated
Warning: yes
Tested: yes
Simons Reagent: Blue
Consumed: no
Pill Report: Blue Diamond
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Comments
Posted on February 28, 2006, 4:30 am GMT by var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
Mandelin went brown...you know what that means. Marquis orange...METH, that simons is BLUE as hell...not that it is a biggie but did they turn fast?
Posted on February 28, 2006, 4:35 am GMT by akacrack (member since September 29, 2005)
***** JUST FOR RECORD, THESE PILLS WEIGH 310MG ******


what does mandelin turning brown mean?

K? SPEED?


Someone neeeds to clearfy the substances in these
Posted on February 28, 2006, 4:44 am GMT by akacrack (member since September 29, 2005)
your diamonds seems lighter with less specks . Is this due to the camera?

http://pillreports.com/images/fullsize/2573.jpg

compare it to this..
Posted on February 28, 2006, 10:18 am GMT by var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
...AH yes..your diamonds appear to be less green than the ones posted below this post that are WRITTEN UP as pink but looking the same. This is troubling as well snce they are not even the same color...so who knows on that one.

***I'll try to clarify the best I can, using her test reults as a guide as to what I might think...keep in mind these pills are sketched...so goes easy on me... Keep in mind that I did not perform the test and this is going to be a STRICT interpretation of the instructions that come with the EZ test COMPLETE w/ some of my own 1st hand experience in testing tons of pills...lol...but here goes.***

MARQUIS STATED RESULT:
"Turn immediately dark orange and then dark brown."

-the dark Orange, to dark brown test result as related from the EZ test manual " indicates the presence of a speed-like substance "substance ". IMO on this one, the manual has a color chart for the colors listed orange/brown. It is also accompanied by a color chart that starts out very light and ends up very dark at the end of the color bar. It would appear to me that this is a reaction for METH. Io also have to note that the lack of time that the color change was noted, I.E. took 5 seconds to turn to this or that is a disadvantage for us. Anyways, if after say 20 seconds you looked down and during that time it went from dark orange to dark brown...I might be inclined to say that there was an XTC-like substance in this pill that reacted and DARKENED the liquid because with this test DARK BLUE/PURPLE/BLACK WOULD INDICATE SO. Often times when testing a pill that I knew for certain contained a good deal of Meth and at least a medium dose of MDXX the color would turn exactly as yours did orange then to an almost dark brownish - bordering on black BUT STILL HAVING THAT orangedark brown IN IT TO DETER IT FROM LOOKING STRAIGHT BLACK...I knew that these colors mixed and produced this "hybrid" color due to the MULTIPLE substances in the pill being tested at once. You can liken this color reaction to stirring two different colors of paint in a can. You do not even have to mix the reagent for this to happen, if it sits it will change and SOMETIMES turn homogenous in color albeit mixed...I have seen it many times.

MECKE REAGENT:
"Turn rapidly red/brown with a blue outline, ???:"
Right from the manual: ORANGE/RED/PURPLE INDICATES THE PRESENCE OF A 2-CT-X LIKE SUBSTANCE. and
GREEN/DARK BLUE/BLACK indicates the presence of an XTC-like substance.
IMO If I saw this I would have to say that it contained a 2-ct-x substance and an XTC-like substance.

MANDELIN REAGENT:
"Became brown/purple, ???"
I can see this pill to contain a KETAMINE like substance AS WELL AS an XTC-like substance- as the EZ test manual states "ORANGE/BROWN INDICATES THE PRESENCE OF A KETAMINE LIKE SUBSTANCE." and dark blue/PURPLE/black indicates an XTC-like substamce" again these two parts of the reacted reagent can mix over a certain mount of trime and become ONE color that relfects what amounts to be the culmination of two different reacted parts of the same drop of reagent mixing and forming an appropriate color.

SIMON'S REAGENT:
"Turn quickly to royal blue: Indicates the presence of a secondary amine"
I will write the EXACT wording from the SIMONS manual:
"A color change to DARK BLUE indicates a secondary amine, probably MDMA or MDEA. Any other color change or no color reaction at all indicates that your pill does NOT contain and MDMA."
Royal blue IMO would infer to that this pill DEFINATELY contains MDMA or MDEA. No where in the instructions that I have for the SIMONS test does it state that the simons will detect METH.

The whole idea of perfroming multiple tests is so that you can "CROSS REFERENCE" your tests the BEST YOU CAN so you can hopefully arrive at a semi-educated scientifically backed up test that is in no way a substitute for for www.ecstasydata.orgs' high end testing.
All in all I would say that this sucker is obviosly NOT CLEAN and is OBVIOUSly mixed. I say this because cross referencing the tests would make that clear.
If confronted with these results I would think there was definately either MDMA or MDEA in a fair amount due to the simons reaction...as well as KETAMINE due to the MANDELINS reaction...as well as...lol a 2-ct-x subtance due to the Mecke reaction, as well as METH due to the friggin' MARQUIS reaction...

conclusion... HELP ME OBI -M DIT AIMEZ WAN your our only hope..please...we beg you to just get it to edata...then we can collectively send them the money to test it...they'll do it...
so there I tried, what a bitch of a pill...lmao
oh yeah IMO I wouldn't give this pill to my worst enemy, not that I have any...
stay clear until...

Above all when Aimez says " . There are probably too many substances into it to be able to identify the pill content with a classical reagent test kit. We will need a laboratory test to know it. " ...believe her...these are mixed to the brim...
Posted on February 28, 2006, 1:25 pm GMT by racoonx (member since October 1, 2005)
Not to piss on your foot var, but Methamphetimine is differentiated from apmphetimine salts by the Secondary Amine. Also, In my test kit it states that the Simons is used to tell Meth-Amphetimine and methyl-d METH-amphet from Amphetimine and Methyl-d-amphet.

Not an attack, just trying to keep the facts straight.

With these "combo" pills, reading the test results becomes an art, as you have to see the different reactions that may occur at the same time. Only with pure substance, or non-reactive substances, will you get the changes exactley as described and photographed in test kit literature. You sorta have to use both judgement and experience to get a perfect read, and even with that, you can never be sure with a mad jumble of chemicals, simple reaction kits just aren't made for that. It's like that Chem lab in High School called "mystery sludge" (your name may vary) where you have to use all your seperation methods to figure out what all is in that gross looking bottle of crap they give you. A tricky teacher will have items in them that togather give simple reaction tests a positive for something that is not even in there...

I'd say these suck. And avoid them unless you really hate your life, body, and those that care for you...
Posted on February 28, 2006, 3:29 pm GMT by m dit aimez (member since October 5, 2005)

About the color of the pill: Reronic, author of the picture you are referenced, gave this precision about is picture: “THEY ARE MORE OF A DARK BLUE NOT THE GREENISH COLOUR THE PICTURE SHOWS”.

...We don't know exactly what there is in these pills, but we know there are not clean! They may containing so many substances. Test kits show just some of these and are accuracy limited to pure substance. The purpose of this site is to make us aware of adulterated pill, what we surely know about these pills since the first report was posted…
Posted on February 28, 2006, 5:05 pm GMT by woodpecker (member since September 29, 2005)
Thanks so much for your detailed testing results. I for one wouldn't have touched these based on looks alone. I think the presser is wise to the reagents and possibly has thrown something in to fool some of us.
Posted on February 28, 2006, 6:37 pm GMT by reronic (member since September 29, 2005)
very nice m-dit, The pills are the same colour as the ones that people think are green ... like i said in the orginal report. When a pill comes around like these test kits are almost useless. These kits only detect a range of drugs. It is very possible that there is a RS chemical in these which i suspect. The test kits would not show this.
Posted on February 28, 2006, 8:32 pm GMT by akacrack (member since September 29, 2005)
for sure no speed. It could be K ... on these diamonds , i wud get so tired after and passsout like i would on K
Posted on March 1, 2006, 12:01 am GMT by akacrack (member since September 29, 2005)
m dit aimez and vars13 . Find a gravol pill and try to test that and see color change , Diphenhydramine might also be another substance in the pill.
Posted on March 1, 2006, 12:23 am GMT by var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
comments deleted...
Racoonx... I have an EZ test complete... it never states anything about methampeth on the simons test booklet...do you have something from dancesafe so that I might learn a little from what your simons booklet says?...
Mdit Aimez... hope my comments being removed will " clear " it up. you really took this one to an extreme. I don't have much of a need to infer but would have liked to discuss what might be in these with you. I also disagree with your statement that we don't need to know what is in these. Just beacause you are willing to pass up these because they are OBVIOUSLY NOT PURE doesnt mean that a new or less concerned user will not consume. Harm reduction is useful on many levels that might not be useful to you. furthermore, I dont engage in pissing contests and wasnt trying to steal your thunder. I will delete all of my posts so that the intention of your report will remain intact and true to its original form. It basically states to me at this point...these were tested...we don't know what are in them...stay away...we knew that. I sincerely apologize for tryint to form a hypothesis as to what may be in these. After all ... I thought it might be helpful to those that WILL TAKE THEM ANYWAY REGARDLESS OF WHAT YOU OR i SAY.
This comment will self-destruct in 24 hours...are you ready? tick... tick... tick... tick...

good luck and good night.
Posted on March 1, 2006, 1:53 am GMT by jbcak47 (member since December 31, 2005)
VAR13,

Who do I talk to about making a donation to get this pill tested??

I like the idea of a paypal or money order fund that we can test VERY DANGEROUS pills such as these diamonds!

I can easily donate $5 per week or 20 a month!

If we can get 100 people to donate 5 per week, we'd be able to get 4-5 pills a week tested!! :)

I'd love to help/donate!
Posted on March 1, 2006, 3:20 am GMT by var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
whats up JBCAK ... you are in the house...
well... let me put a lectric' message to the stoner...I think Renonic was going to set up the account...
then we could all deposit... we just have to remain nameless...faceless and ISPless....no what I mean>
But ...you bet JB IM down... we can start with this one...im on it.
Posted on March 1, 2006, 4:19 am GMT by m dit aimez (member since October 5, 2005)
It's sad Var, but even if you get this pill test by edata and if you publish the results, some people will take them anyway. What could be more dissuasive then many reports and comments that testified of bad experiences and bad trip?
I don't say I'm not curious about the contents of these, like you I will appreciate to know how creative the cooks are becoming to mislead us, but don't take a self satisfaction of knowing for a harm reduction will...
Having said that, tank you for you to be understanding.
Posted on March 1, 2006, 4:42 am GMT by akacrack (member since September 29, 2005)
thers too many different thoughts going around and alot of people are influenced by what they hear. lets get this thing down and get it tested im willing to drop a 20 and have it sent to edata with reronic.
Posted on March 1, 2006, 5:51 am GMT by m dit aimez (member since October 5, 2005)
Yes Var, it was all about "the intention" of my report, but not about stealing something... I just think that all the speculation about these pills contents was getting ridiculous and I didn't want to feed it by making hasty conclusion or hazardous assumption. On the other side, I though it may be important to let people know that I didn’t obtain the same results as mcmaxx (first one that have tested these).
Having said this, I think your right about the need of laboratory test. Some people talk now about these being a high dose of pure MDMA… I can’t explain myself why? After all the testimonies of bad experiences we had related to these pills…
So yes, if you guys do set up a system to send pill to edata and share the costs, I’m down to donate…
Same name on BL.
Posted on March 1, 2006, 8:46 am GMT by deth2crakpills (member since November 11, 2005)
first off much respect to everbody especially var but with all your good intentions your just wasting time the whole purpose of this site being formed for harm reduction went down the crapper years ago I mainly just use it now for basic info on pills the sad truth is (myself included) most people even after reading about how bad a pill is are still going to eat it as long as "it does stuff". 95% of people on this site have no idea what MDMA really is. if you read most of the reports as long as the pill is "quadruple tripple stacked" and gets you high its a "bomb ass pill" never mind these same pills keep you up for days, shred your stomach, dehydrate you, and turn your skin oily and grey (this is caused by all the wonderful leftovers of shitty crank) I have been taking tabs for 3.5 years now and have gotten everything- MDA,MDE,MDMA,meth,K,dxm,diphenhydramine, pseudoephedrine,caffeine, and possbly pcp over the years I have also tried many research chemicals and really see no point in getting a test kit. this report just backs up my argument 4 reagents and a million colors later you are still playing the guessing game. when they have one that tests for PMA i will be the first in line. and sending it into e-data sounds like great idea but once you guys get the money and send it there will already be another batch of pills around so all you will have done is payed $130 +pill cost and shipping just to settle some arguments. In short- everytime you take a pill nowadays you are playing russian roulette so if you can't handle the consequences of k,dxm,large doses of crank,research chemicals,or any combination of these +any ramdom over the counter stimulant. just leave it alone go back to your beer and weed and us real druggies will handle it : )


my personal advice is as follows- if its a pill or new batch err on the side of caution just drop one to begin with 1/2 if you really sketchy see were it takes you before eating more and keep some xanax or whatever benzo you can get your hands on for emergencys -xanax will overide most research chems, any amphetamine, and will bring you out of a k-hole peace out and happy "rollin"
Posted on March 1, 2006, 10:56 am GMT by therollingstoner (member since September 29, 2005)
A test kit is extremely valuable. I recommend everyone get one. Even if theres diff batches, presses, whatever. As long as you tested it, like MDIT did, you can see its not good, and not eat it. Of course theres plenty of crackheads out there that will eat it anyways, like you said, but for the ones who are smart and care about our bodies, these test results could save someone from a night of hell, or worse. Thanks for the report mdit. -mod
Posted on March 1, 2006, 11:44 am GMT by var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
What He said ;)
Hey Stone...If your around tonight...after work...myself or the Diamond will contact you to talk about setting up a testing donation situation..cool? cool...
Thanks all fer not listening. Glad all is well M Dit...
Posted on March 1, 2006, 5:35 pm GMT by deth2crakpills (member since November 11, 2005)
mmmm mmmm peanut butter and crack sandwiches...... theeeerrrree grrrrrrrrrreeaat! anyways how about you set up a betting pool for whats in the mystery pill of death charge each person $5 to place a bet because these are the most wack test results in existence I will even throw $10 on it to help solve this mystery. I just want to know how many chemicals are in it..
Posted on March 1, 2006, 5:35 pm GMT by deth2crakpills (member since November 11, 2005)
mmmm mmmm peanut butter and crack sandwiches...... theeeerrrree grrrrrrrrrreeaat! anyways how about you set up a betting pool for whats in the mystery pill of death charge each person $5 to place a bet because these are the most wack test results in existence I will even throw $10 on it to help solve this mystery. I just want to know how many chemicals are in it..
Posted on March 1, 2006, 10:10 pm GMT by garbage (member since November 12, 2005)
somebody should start a thread on bluelight for the (possible?) diamond edata fund. ill throw down money too.
Posted on March 2, 2006, 12:41 am GMT by partyboy911 (member since February 1, 2006)
im so pissed about all these bunk pills.. this diamonds which i hated, and last time i dropped was even worste, a meth bomb.... i have only rolled about 9 timesm, maybe 4 of them shitty pills.

things like this keep people out of the scene i wish i had a good source, i gotta buy a kit

i think the trend should be, if u get a Bunk pill go ur dealer and demand money back or break his legs/report him to police(second one a lil harsh).....but this will definatly get rid of the rising problem of SHIT pills that have lil to non mdma

i wish i got into this whole party scene earlier when there was decent supply
Posted on March 4, 2006, 3:28 am GMT by xxxravegurlxxx (member since February 13, 2006)
whenever someone figures out how we're going to get money together for a lab test, could you let me know? i still have quite a few of these and im not sure if i should eat em, give them away or flush em. so im definately down for throwing a few bucks to lay all these mysteries to rest

Posted on March 5, 2006, 10:04 pm GMT by deth2crakpills (member since November 11, 2005)
Posted on March 5, 2006, 10:05 pm GMT by deth2crakpills (member since November 11, 2005)
just send 'em to me and Ill let you know......
Posted on March 6, 2006, 4:37 am GMT by var13 (member since September 29, 2005)
a thread was started on bluelight.nu

so go already.......
Posted on March 7, 2006, 3:59 am GMT by akacrack (member since September 29, 2005)
send all paypal funds to EDITED ... Or add the email to send money. I myself is donating 20$ canadian, and reronic is donating 20 cnd as well so we got 40. The total cost for lab test will cost $115 USD which is 131.046 CAD > ALL WE NEED is 91$ canadian as donations and were good to go . <3

***MOD EDIT: Please see Reronic's post regarding donations. Email addresses in reports are not allowed. This belongs on bluelight!!!***
Posted on March 16, 2006, 10:17 pm GMT by krimson (member since October 30, 2005)
great roll, mixed for sure but definatly some mdma in it and as for the reagent tests well ive had mixed results with 3 different pills from the same batch
Posted on April 17, 2006, 2:32 am GMT by goatforsale (member since April 17, 2006)

So like what happend ? i couldn't find the bluelight thread i too ran into these and would like to know the test resulsts?????? thanks regards
Posted on April 26, 2006, 8:52 am GMT by jack attack (member since April 26, 2006)
listen everyone. i took these. i dunno why everyones goign crazy about them. they're fine! actually good. i was at bal en blanc in front of infected mushroom. i felt amazing and dancing with this girl i could feel everything. i peaked for about 2 to 3 hours and then needed more. i don't not reccomned these. i just think u shoudl try it for urself. unless you'd rather spend a bunch of money to figure out what i just told u. peace out.
Posted on April 26, 2006, 5:06 pm GMT by ravenousblonde (member since October 1, 2005)
MOD NOTE: This VERY PILL was tested by a collective effort of Pill Reporters & Bluelight members. You can find out EXACTLY WHAT WAS IN THIS PILL BY GOING TO THIS LINK:

http://www.ecstasydata.org/viewtablet.php?ID=1543

Thank you ALL who sent in donations! We have $90 for our next testing project - please visit Bluelight's Pill Reports Discussion forum for more information.

Extra special thanks to all the great people at Erowid & Enlighten for helping us set this up, DDL for testing the pill, and for all of *YOU* who donated!!

:-D
~Ravenous*Mod~
Posted on April 29, 2006, 12:40 am GMT by racoonx (member since October 1, 2005)
I'm so pleased to see these tested. And I'm so sad for Jack Attack. Jack, you could save a ton of money by buying a box of benadryl. If that's what you like, more power to you. But I think if you (or anyone) got a hold of a good quality and quantity of MDMA, you would never be happy with these crappy pills again.
Posted on May 2, 2006, 10:08 pm GMT by jack attack (member since April 26, 2006)
dont be sad for me racoonx. ive done lots of pure mdma. the gel cap ones, u know what i mean? with that kinda brown white powder. stings like hell going up. i've done over a 100 different types of e. getting really f*cked up is what i like. ive taken pure mdma and i still like these diamonds. to each is his own, thats my style. and its not benedryl that will get u high. its the combination of Diphenhydramine and MDMA. its just like speedballing, u get more stoned. peace out.
Posted on July 24, 2007, 5:09 am GMT by markybda (member since July 24, 2007)
These PILLS WERE THE BOMB!!!!!!!! If you took a chunk off of them you would roll balls!!!!!!
I remember splitting 1 in 1/3 and we were all fryed, came on quick though....
OOOHHHH, and did i say that I did these in Bermuda, SAME pills, and they were brought from Canada....
Posted on January 11, 2008, 12:49 am GMT by ubuntu1986 (member since November 29, 2007)
Ive herd that ther is some going round in portsmouth (UK)hope i can get some in the midlands just to see what they are like? I get MDMA very offen and have yet to find a pill better than taking just MDMA